Everyone Has a "Write" to Be Here
(In ref. to the “The Folded American Flag“ Meaning of Each Fold post)
http://www.navyformoms.com/profiles/blogs/the-folded-american-flag-...
LMBO!!!!!!!!!!! OhMyGosh!!!!!!! How funny. I have just let this get way out of hand. (or at least my behavior) Ok, let's try to fix this, girls and I'm going to use one of my personal contacts info without using her name here. She contacted me after all of this started because she wanted me to know that what I had posted was used even at a family members funeral. She was so upset over the entire argument that she has contacted a family member in another country to have them find the pamphlet it was on, so that she might then weigh in on this ‘discussion’ with it ‘in hand’ and I’m sure, to then be able to feel that she was right in doing so. God Bless her. When did we become so fearful on this site that we feel we must have “proof” in hand before we post something?
She also mentioned participating in ceremonial flag duties as a child in some organization as many of us do. So… see… here’s the thing. It was exactly that reason that I posted the item in the first place. Because I had become aware that it is often read now at various funerals and ceremonies. Many of those are of military origins. No, the “reason for the folds” is not the reason the flag was originally folded that way, it was simply folded in a way to distinguish it from things not so meaningful, so that it wasn’t folded up like a bed sheet or such, but the folds themselves didn’t ’mean’ anything in particular. However, over time, somewhere, someone came up with this beautiful ‘meaning’ of the folds. And, as beautiful as it is, over time, it has come to mean a great deal to many and the place it is now most often requested and read is at various military functions including military retirement ceremonies and funerals, many of them at Arlington National Cemetery, and very often is made a part of many VFW ceremonies along with civilian ceremonies. It is not, nor have I stated that it is read at every single ceremony or funeral. And I can’t imagine any reason in the world that it would be “taught’ at boot camp, Navy or otherwise.
So, although it isn’t law, this brings us back to the original intent of my post. I thought it was, and still think it is a beautiful reading and will always feel pride any time I hear it. I believed then and now that many others on this site would enjoy seeing it also. It is no ones responsibility to ‘cover all the bases’ on each and every item they post here. They cannot nor should they feel as though they must make every potential reader happy with what they are writing and posting. If that were so, no one would ever feel as though their posts were welcome here.
I sincerely hope, and say this with no animosity, I hope that everyone who is a member of this site, whatever your reason for being here, I hope everyone would feel comfortable enough to write whatever you want to share here. I pray you will do so without fear of being corrected or censured by anyone. Why, because I believe I often learn more about myself when I put down in black and white what is in my head. I often learn more about my fears, what I fear and why I fear it. I sometimes learn that I don’t even believe what I have been saying out loud, and just don’t realize that until I see it there before me, which then allows me to grow and change as a woman, a mother and a human being. But most importantly, it has been here, amongst other Navy Mothers, Sisters, Grandmothers, Wives, Fiancé’s, girlfriends and even the occasional man, it has been here that I have learned that I am not alone in my fears and my hopes and dreams for my child and sometimes for myself. Saying that, I hope that everyone reading this today will understand and agree that while we all NEED this site for our own personal reasons, what we need most of all from this site is to not be fearful of correction and/or reprimand. No, what we need most is each other and a safe place to share, write and sometimes vent. So I would ask that in the future if you, the reader, do not agree with my posts or blogs, please move on to one you do agree with or in fact, I hope you feel free and comfortable enough on this site to post your own views in your own posts or blogs. Whatever you choose to do, please refrain from criticizing me and those who would ask the same. If you also feel this way, please do add your name below and in doing so, know that you are also making a commitment to honor and support the women and the writings they entrust and share with us here. I and others like me will try to honor this. So. Let me be the first to say and sign this.
I will do my best to honor and keep safe the things you write here. I will not correct you, I will not demean you. I will do my best to encourage you to write whatever you can, whatever you are able, whatever you feel is important to you, whatever you want to here. I know some days what you share with us may be funny or humorous, it may be something you’ve been sent, it may be something you think will lift my spirits, it may be something patriotic, or it may be something you feel will tug at my heart strings and make me cry. Most importantly I will try to listen with my heart to what you write when it comes from your heart. I promise not to criticize or hamper you in any way because the most important thing of all is that you are here. Because I need you.
Love and Prayers, Beverly Staton
http://www.navyformoms.com/profiles/blogs/the-folded-american-flag-...
LMBO!!!!!!!!!!! OhMyGosh!!!!!!! How funny. I have just let this get way out of hand. (or at least my behavior) Ok, let's try to fix this, girls and I'm going to use one of my personal contacts info without using her name here. She contacted me after all of this started because she wanted me to know that what I had posted was used even at a family members funeral. She was so upset over the entire argument that she has contacted a family member in another country to have them find the pamphlet it was on, so that she might then weigh in on this ‘discussion’ with it ‘in hand’ and I’m sure, to then be able to feel that she was right in doing so. God Bless her. When did we become so fearful on this site that we feel we must have “proof” in hand before we post something?
She also mentioned participating in ceremonial flag duties as a child in some organization as many of us do. So… see… here’s the thing. It was exactly that reason that I posted the item in the first place. Because I had become aware that it is often read now at various funerals and ceremonies. Many of those are of military origins. No, the “reason for the folds” is not the reason the flag was originally folded that way, it was simply folded in a way to distinguish it from things not so meaningful, so that it wasn’t folded up like a bed sheet or such, but the folds themselves didn’t ’mean’ anything in particular. However, over time, somewhere, someone came up with this beautiful ‘meaning’ of the folds. And, as beautiful as it is, over time, it has come to mean a great deal to many and the place it is now most often requested and read is at various military functions including military retirement ceremonies and funerals, many of them at Arlington National Cemetery, and very often is made a part of many VFW ceremonies along with civilian ceremonies. It is not, nor have I stated that it is read at every single ceremony or funeral. And I can’t imagine any reason in the world that it would be “taught’ at boot camp, Navy or otherwise.
So, although it isn’t law, this brings us back to the original intent of my post. I thought it was, and still think it is a beautiful reading and will always feel pride any time I hear it. I believed then and now that many others on this site would enjoy seeing it also. It is no ones responsibility to ‘cover all the bases’ on each and every item they post here. They cannot nor should they feel as though they must make every potential reader happy with what they are writing and posting. If that were so, no one would ever feel as though their posts were welcome here.
I sincerely hope, and say this with no animosity, I hope that everyone who is a member of this site, whatever your reason for being here, I hope everyone would feel comfortable enough to write whatever you want to share here. I pray you will do so without fear of being corrected or censured by anyone. Why, because I believe I often learn more about myself when I put down in black and white what is in my head. I often learn more about my fears, what I fear and why I fear it. I sometimes learn that I don’t even believe what I have been saying out loud, and just don’t realize that until I see it there before me, which then allows me to grow and change as a woman, a mother and a human being. But most importantly, it has been here, amongst other Navy Mothers, Sisters, Grandmothers, Wives, Fiancé’s, girlfriends and even the occasional man, it has been here that I have learned that I am not alone in my fears and my hopes and dreams for my child and sometimes for myself. Saying that, I hope that everyone reading this today will understand and agree that while we all NEED this site for our own personal reasons, what we need most of all from this site is to not be fearful of correction and/or reprimand. No, what we need most is each other and a safe place to share, write and sometimes vent. So I would ask that in the future if you, the reader, do not agree with my posts or blogs, please move on to one you do agree with or in fact, I hope you feel free and comfortable enough on this site to post your own views in your own posts or blogs. Whatever you choose to do, please refrain from criticizing me and those who would ask the same. If you also feel this way, please do add your name below and in doing so, know that you are also making a commitment to honor and support the women and the writings they entrust and share with us here. I and others like me will try to honor this. So. Let me be the first to say and sign this.
I will do my best to honor and keep safe the things you write here. I will not correct you, I will not demean you. I will do my best to encourage you to write whatever you can, whatever you are able, whatever you feel is important to you, whatever you want to here. I know some days what you share with us may be funny or humorous, it may be something you’ve been sent, it may be something you think will lift my spirits, it may be something patriotic, or it may be something you feel will tug at my heart strings and make me cry. Most importantly I will try to listen with my heart to what you write when it comes from your heart. I promise not to criticize or hamper you in any way because the most important thing of all is that you are here. Because I need you.
Love and Prayers, Beverly Staton
Tags: criticize, viewpoint, welcome, writing
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Permalink Reply by Nani Inga on -
They dont reveal their real identity( they call themselves the Krazy Kerbys), I dont blame then, because I would be ashamed to have posted this vile crap. PM me if you want to know who each one of the Krazy Kerbys are, I know their REAL identity. All are Navy for Moms mothers, conservatives. You might be surprised at who their "leader" is ,"Freedom of Speech" ring a bell, Liberty Council ring a bell? There is another blog called " Rebel Moms Words", by these same people, equally as vile as the one linked in TDMs comment above. Their "leaders" blog is:
Tick, Tick, Tick....Navy Moms "Sitting On A Time Bomb"
Commentary from "Tick, Tick, Tick...Navy Moms Sitting On A Time Bom...
Caution , again, not for the faint of heart.
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Permalink Reply by Beverly Staton on -
again, nothing to do with this blog
I am not here to defend anyone's politcal leanings, not even mine. And I'm not here to discuss my belief in God, although I'm not hiding it. But none of that has anything to do with this blog. I am here as a Mom of a young Navy man. I at one time found this site to be a comfort to me. That was in the beginning. I don't know what to make of it today.
How frustrating.
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Permalink Reply by Nate's Mom (Wendy) ;P on -
You and Karen promoting other websites on N4M? I did not see anywhere where you or karens name was mentioned, funny is EVERYTHING about YOU?
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Permalink Reply by Nani Inga on
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Ashamed Wendy ? You should be . Beverly you could have deleted Wendy's , Lynne's and others comments when they dragged "liberal" mothers into this, that might have ended it there and then.
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Permalink Reply by Nani Inga on
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Now these women are perpetrating a lie in which they have said I would reveal their LAST names. I have NEVER said that and IF I knew their last names I would not be so foolish to post them on a public forum,lies and more lies, this is the kind of women that we are dealing with here. Truly shameful.
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Reply by Nani Inga 15 hours ago
They dont reveal their real identity( they call themselves the Krazy Kerbys), I dont blame then, because I would be ashamed to have posted this vile crap. PM me if you want to know who each one of the Krazy Kerbys are, I know their REAL identity. All are Navy for Moms mothers, conservatives.
Contradicting yourself again inga? No you didnt say in "open forum" you said in PM. Word games. Do you really think people would not see your word games you play? Is this a threat? Pretty sad you have to hijack someone blog. Play your games all you want.
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Permalink Reply by Nani Inga on
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Wendy, do you ever get sick of twisting truth by twisting people's words? You want people to believe I would post your last names , whether they be here on open forum or in a PM, or on a toilet seat,keep perpetuating lies and revealing what you are made of. It was YOU Wendy who hijacked this blog by mentioning "liberal mothers" as being the troublemakers on this site, THEN you delete your own post, whatever Wendy we all know what you are about.
I see you all made your vile despicable, and obscene blogs private, GOOD IDEA. I would be so ashamed to have written that incredible hateful stuff.
To Beverly I do apologize for continuing to post here, I really wish you wouldn't have allowed Wendy to drag us into this ridiculous blog. You could have deleted her post about " liberal mothers."
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Permalink Reply by TexasDocMom on -
It was interesting to note, by Beverly's sharing of all the emails and PMs she received when one of us "liberal" moms posted to her public blog, that we indeed, as we suspected, are the target of those same women who have been coming after us for the last year or so....every time any of us post, we are flooded with nasty comments about us personally, and attacks on anyone they view as on our "side". That email campaign to slander other Navy moms is evidently very successful. I'm sure you are all proud of yourselves. I wonder what your children think when they read your blogs and posts about other Navy moms whose only :"crime" is a difference of opinion to yours. Are they proud as well?
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Permalink Reply by Nate's Mom (Wendy) ;P on
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again inga, where did I say anything about "liberals"? You cut and paste EVERYTHING so anti up. where?? put up of SHUT UP!
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Permalink Reply by Beverly Staton on
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Really?? I just do NOT understand who you people are or what your problems are. You obviously should be in a chat forum or constructing your own blog for these issues if they mean so much to you. Why do you insist on hijacking others blogs?? It's so ridiuculous that you have to know it is. Why in the world are you all being so hateful, mean and vindictive. I don't know ANY of you from Adam. I mean, really??
You, yourself just got thru saying you would keep your opinions to yourself and I told you I'd hold you to your word. Did your word not mean anything?? What is wrong with you? What is your problem and what would it take to make you go away?
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Does your statement also apply to Wendy and the others who BROUGHT us into this MESS? You allowed them to bash "liberal" mothers, now you are aghast that we defend ourselves? It seems to me that is was you Beverly who wanted to keep this bonfire burning by posting this second blog of yours, just as ASCHSEH said earlier, before SHE was bashed. I think maybe you need to take some of your own medicine.
Reply by Achseh 1 day ago
Since this started with your blog, it's probably best to keep it with your blog. I don't see the reason to bring it here unless you want to rally the troops? Most here were and remain unaware of what prompts you to write this. Perhaps we should keep it that way? You certainly do have the right to say what you want, but so do others and truth matters.
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Permalink Reply by Nate's Mom (Wendy) ;P on
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Who brought you in "this mess"?? Since you named me..please show me where I mentioned you or anyones name in my comment, you guys sure are paranoid.
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