Need some advice about joining
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Permalink Reply by Craig on -
You need to earn your degree and get your commission as an officer. You really need to talk to an Officer recruiter. You will make alot more money as an officer. You have the training and education, you need to focus on what you have been trained to do. Do not go enlisted.
You can find officer recruiters here:
http://www.navy.com/locator.html
or your local college should have job fairs and the recruiters are usually there. You need to talk to them now, and get the ball rolling.
Per your thinking you won't pass the physical fitness test, what is the deal there? What area don't you think you'll pass? In the Navy there's ways around every rule, and I need to know which one you're having problems with.
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Permalink Reply by CryptoBiz on -
don't tell her what she "needs" to do. There's ways you can look at things. Enlisting first, play and learn the game, and see if the officer community is something you'd like to do. Or commission and get thrown to the wolves and not understanding much about it.
In the Navy there are ways around every rule? Yeah, apparently you don't know the newest instruction for the PRT huh? Not a reliable source you are there, Craig...
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Permalink Reply by jessnuke87 on -
I agree with cryptobiz to a point... I have a degree already and looked into being an officer. It's very difficult right now to become an officer because of the budget (there arent enough spots open and the ones that are in the 2013 or 2014 class) and if her application is accepted, it would be a long time before she went to OCS.
I have also heard that you get more respect as an officer if you start enlisted and then get a commission as an officer. I know I will have more respect for those officers than those who never were enlisted (still respected just slightly less)
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Permalink Reply by HardyGirl1369 on -
The main thing I'm worried about is the fitness part. I'm not a huge runner which is something that I'm working on now. Not sure if there is a certain weight limit as well as far as age goes. I talked to a recruiter about a year ago about officer training and they said that they would contact me back and never have. Is there a difference between officer training and basic training?
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Permalink Reply by Craig on
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You need to time yourself to see how long it takes you to do a 1 1/2 mile run. Being 23, you have 15:15 minutes to do it. That is a heck of alot of time. Understand, you must have the scores of Satisfactory Medium to pass. When you finally get to the fleet (or shore duty), you can go all the way down to Probationary.
The second thing most sailors that have a hard time running fail to do is try the swim test. They all get this "I can't swim" attitude. What they fail to realize is you truly don't have to swim, to do the swim test. You can push off the sides, you can hold on the sides, you can stop, you can rest, you can do any swim stroke you want. The swim is the last Navy loop hole that they never closed. So, my recommendation is to get off the dang internet after you read this, read the rules about swimming in the attached official Navy rule book, and then go try the swim following those rules. Remember, read the rules carefully, and following the rules. Don't read anything more into them (ie don't swim the entire time). Swim when you feel like it.
(btw: The word "Shall" mean "Must", it cannot be waivered.
The rules:
e. 500-yard or 450-meter swim
(1) Event consists of swimming 500 yards or 450 meters in fastest time possible. Any swim stroke and turn may be used.
(2) Event shall only be conducted in a standard 25 or 50 yard/meter swimming pool.
(3) Swim event shall be conducted as follows:
(a) Swimmers begin test in water.
(b) Timer shall signal start and call out time intervals or lengths until completion of test.
(c) Time is recorded with stopwatch to nearest second.
(d) Swimmers may push off from sides with hands and feet after each pool length.
(e) Resting is permitted by holding side of pool, standing, or treading water.
(f) Swimmers may use goggles, facemasks, swim caps, and or ear plugs. Fins, snorkels, flotation, wet suit, and propulsion device are not allowed.
(7) Event is ended if participant:
(a) Completes prescribed distance.
(b) Moves forward while resting.
(c) Receives or requires assistance from lifeguard or other person.
From:
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Permalink Reply by CryptoBiz on
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I'm gonna start calling bluff on a lot of things that Craig posts....this chart is wrong. There are no more sub-categories in the PRT...also, a Satisfactory Medium? If you get a sat on any event, the CFL will put you on FEP.
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Permalink Reply by HardyGirl1369 on
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Awesome! Thank you so much for that chart. Do you know anything about officer training? My brother said its easier then basics and then I've heard some people say that it is harder.
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Permalink Reply by BunkerQB on -
A family was enlisted, then became an officer thru OCS. He did this back in the 70s. He said Officer Candidate School was much easier. My son went through OCS in 2006. One of his classmates, a former SEAL said OCS was more difficult than Boot Camp for enlisted.
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Permalink Reply by Craig on
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I mainly work with enlisted. However, I do have a gal on my website that has alot of info on officer stuff...
Talk to Guppy2010 at NavyDEP.com
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Permalink Reply by HardyGirl1369 on
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Thanks again! I will try to contact her when I've got some free time. Do you think two years is too early to start talking to a recruiter?
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Permalink Reply by Craig on
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Heck no... Start talking now, at least you will have a game plan.
My daughter talked to them when she was 17. They actually took the time to explain the route she needs to take to join the Navy. Once they realized that she already had her associates degree at 17, they really started pumping her up. They actually focused her on a path, and she is on her way to becoming an medical officer.
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Permalink Reply by HardyGirl1369 on
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Wow that is awesome she had her associates at 17!?! I figured it would be a good idea to start talking to them, but I know how most of them are and I don't want to get pushed into it knowing that I still have two years left to complete school
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