Sailors required to "ask" persmission to Stay Navy!
Every Sailor with under 14 years in the USN is now required to ask the USN if they will be able to reenlist in the USN. Not everyone will be granted permission to Stay Navy. Sailors need to start planning now if they want to reenlist, even if it is 1,2,3 or more years down the road. What a Sailor does now can and will effect their chance of reenlisting.
For any Sailor thinking this doesn't effect them, they are greatly mistaken and may not be able to reenlist if they don't get all the information to make an informed choice.
Navy Expands PTS for Sailors E-6 and Below With 14 Years or Less
Release Date: 05/28/2009
By Navy Personnel Command Public Affairs
MILLINGTON, Tenn. -- The Chief of Naval Personnel announced plans to expand the Navy's Perform to Serve (PTS) program to include all Sailors, E-6 and below, with 14 years or less of service, beginning June 1 as described in NAVADMIN 161/09.
PTS is a centralized reservation system that helps the Navy manage reenlistments of Sailors with less than 10 years of service, or Zones A and B. The expansion of the PTS program allows the Navy greater flexibility to control the number of Sailors in specific ratings and provides better advancement opportunities for Sailors, while helping the Navy manage manpower requirements.
"The Perform to Serve program is an essential tool that allows us to provide stable and predictable manning to the fleet. It will allow us to keep a balanced force based on experience, skill sets, and seniority matched to requirements," said Vice Adm. Mark Ferguson, chief of naval personnel.
The NAVADMIN expands PTS to include Zone C Sailors with 10 to 14 years of service. Therefore, all E-6 and below Zone C Sailors with an End of Active Obligated Service (EAOS) date on or after Feb. 1, 2010 must submit a PTS application regardless of their reenlistment intentions. However, Zone C Sailors selected for or already advanced to chief petty officer are exempt.
In addition to members of the chief petty officer community, exemptions include Sailors currently under Permanent Change of Station orders, Sailors with an approved conversion package and Sailors with an approved Selected Reenlistment Bonus precertification.
According to statistics from the Center for Career Development, in 2008 almost 90 percent of Sailors who applied for PTS remained in their current rating. Quality Sailors who hold ratings in overmanned fields may be offered reenlistment in an undermanned rating. However, Sailors with a poor performance history may not be granted permission to reenlist.
"Our future is in our E-4, E-5, and E-6 petty officers who should see advancement opportunities in their future in an organization that rewards the best performance," said Ferguson.
Sailors should consult their career counselors about 15 months prior to their EAOS to complete the required paperwork and request their command submit a PTS application, regardless of their intentions to re-enlist.
For more information regarding the submission process, application format or other PTS issues, please visit www.npc.navy.mil or contact NPC's Customer Service Center by calling 1-866-U-ASK-NPC (1-866-827-5672).
Navy Expands PTS
For any Sailor thinking this doesn't effect them, they are greatly mistaken and may not be able to reenlist if they don't get all the information to make an informed choice.
Navy Expands PTS for Sailors E-6 and Below With 14 Years or Less
Release Date: 05/28/2009
By Navy Personnel Command Public Affairs
MILLINGTON, Tenn. -- The Chief of Naval Personnel announced plans to expand the Navy's Perform to Serve (PTS) program to include all Sailors, E-6 and below, with 14 years or less of service, beginning June 1 as described in NAVADMIN 161/09.
PTS is a centralized reservation system that helps the Navy manage reenlistments of Sailors with less than 10 years of service, or Zones A and B. The expansion of the PTS program allows the Navy greater flexibility to control the number of Sailors in specific ratings and provides better advancement opportunities for Sailors, while helping the Navy manage manpower requirements.
"The Perform to Serve program is an essential tool that allows us to provide stable and predictable manning to the fleet. It will allow us to keep a balanced force based on experience, skill sets, and seniority matched to requirements," said Vice Adm. Mark Ferguson, chief of naval personnel.
The NAVADMIN expands PTS to include Zone C Sailors with 10 to 14 years of service. Therefore, all E-6 and below Zone C Sailors with an End of Active Obligated Service (EAOS) date on or after Feb. 1, 2010 must submit a PTS application regardless of their reenlistment intentions. However, Zone C Sailors selected for or already advanced to chief petty officer are exempt.
In addition to members of the chief petty officer community, exemptions include Sailors currently under Permanent Change of Station orders, Sailors with an approved conversion package and Sailors with an approved Selected Reenlistment Bonus precertification.
According to statistics from the Center for Career Development, in 2008 almost 90 percent of Sailors who applied for PTS remained in their current rating. Quality Sailors who hold ratings in overmanned fields may be offered reenlistment in an undermanned rating. However, Sailors with a poor performance history may not be granted permission to reenlist.
"Our future is in our E-4, E-5, and E-6 petty officers who should see advancement opportunities in their future in an organization that rewards the best performance," said Ferguson.
Sailors should consult their career counselors about 15 months prior to their EAOS to complete the required paperwork and request their command submit a PTS application, regardless of their intentions to re-enlist.
For more information regarding the submission process, application format or other PTS issues, please visit www.npc.navy.mil or contact NPC's Customer Service Center by calling 1-866-U-ASK-NPC (1-866-827-5672).
Navy Expands PTS
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Permalink Reply by annieNC/NAS on -
THANX...sent it to my son also.
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Permalink Reply by Barbara (Derek's Mom) on -
It took one of my son's career away and the other one's waiting to get his results.
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Permalink Reply by Hoppi aka Angie on -
FYI, PTS doesn't take someones career away. When applying for PTS it is the Sailors choice what to apply for. S/He can either apply to stay in rate only or change rates, it is 100% the sailors choice. If the sailor doesn't want to cross rate that is their choice.
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Permalink Reply by Barbara (Derek's Mom) on
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There wasn't any other openings that he was qualified for that were open. He could have taken the asvab over again but he knew after being out of school for 4 years he wouldn't score any higher. He had many meetings with the NC onboard and other officers and they really couldn't hook him up with another rate that was open. So essentially it did take away his Navy career.
I posted another question farther down here and haven't had any responses yet, my son needs to know whether to wait for the results or should he put in to crossrate now?
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Permalink Reply by Ali, Zak's Mom - STG2 E5 MUSTIN on -
Thanks Hoppi, I'll be passing this on.
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Permalink Reply by MsV54321 on -
Something my son learned in regards to reenlisting. If they're on a ship that goes in a war zone, reenlist there if a signing bonus is given, because it's tax free in the war zone.
Just info I've learned, may not apply here at all.
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Permalink Reply by MaryEllen Harmon on -
What I'm seeing with my daughter and the Seabees she serves with is they've lost their jobs while they're gone. Due to the downturn at home, shutdowns, businesses closing, etc. They are signing up to stay as they don't want to face unemployment and lower incomes. Her employer is supposed to be saving her job, but they could take her back a week or two and lay her off. They've cut back a lot since she left. So, she'll have to make a decision as to what she should do. She'll be fine, but so many of them are facing the uncertainty of these circumstances.
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Permalink Reply by Hoppi aka Angie on
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MaryEllen: If your daughter is a reservest the PTS doesn't apply to reservest.
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Permalink Reply by Hoppi aka Angie on
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MsV54321: There are a lot of things that must be in place for someone to do that, it is not just going up to the COC and saying that they want to reenlsit. SVM must be with in 90 days of their EAOS and in the same FY, and paper work must be put in NLT 35 days prior to the day they want to reenlist.
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Permalink Reply by MsV54321 on
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As in anything in the Navy, I'm sure there are rules and procedures for anything, and those who are affected by something hopefully would research what is required.
I feel confident our son left with a good head on his shoulders, and I've learned to not ask many questions or could hear "I'd tell ya Mom, but then I'd have to kill ya"
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Permalink Reply by MeLinda on -
My son told me that prior to enlisting when he was going down to take is test. I was asking questions like where were they putting him up for the night, things Moms like to know. I kindly informed him at that point the government did not own him, mom still did.
Now he tells me that the government owns him now, so he would have to kill me if he told me.
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