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I just wanted to say thank you to everyone that tried to help me when I turned to Navy moms for help. Thank you John Wagner for going to the hospital to check on Michael. He is doing well. They have however been put bad on the Versed to keep him calm. They are afraid that he will hurt himself. I went to the Red Cross for help. I didn’t really get much. I did go back and take another shot at the Airline and I went to the Head quarters of Delta. Our tickets have been changed. I will be in Norfolk Thursday night. We are leaving Washington in the morning. My husband, daughter and granddaughter will be with me. For the time being we will be there for 10days. I am feeling better about things. Its so hard when you cant think clear no matter how hard you try. No matter what you say you have no idea what you would do until it is happening to you.
For any of you that have kids that are not married and make them get you a POA. Keep it close and make sure the dates are current. Make sure you know what they want. Michael’s POA was out of date. He had told me that he had updated it but now I need it and since he never sent it to me I have no way of finding it. He is unable to tell me where it is. I didn’t push for him to mail it to me. My eyes have been opened to so many things now and it is sad that it took the horrible thing to do that. I thought I had it all.
I am not sure how I feel about the Navy right now. This is day seven since the accident and still no one has called and even asked if there was anything they could do. I don’t know what they could be just the call knowing that they are concerned about Michael would be nice. I know his boss has been to the hospital several times. I have spoke with him but that has only been when I called. I just don’t know what to think. At some point when I get back home and I know Michael is on a good road to getting better I will sit down and write a letter. Not sure where I will be sending it. Maybe I will make copies and send it to a couple different places.
Once again thank you to all that tried to help.
Denise Holland

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Denise,

Hallelujah that your son is doing better. I'm so glad you were able to get the tickets changed and will be able to get back there to be with him.

I would hold off on writing a letter. The fact that his supervisor has visited him and spoken with you a few times is indication that they are concerned for him. There's nothing more in their power than can do and with HiPPA laws and dealing with adult children, it becomes a murky issue to try to navigate, even with the best intentions. Best to follow your son's wishes in this regard.

Good healing wishes his way!

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Thank you. Even my sons supervisor said that it is bull that someone has not called me. I know there is the hippa laws. But I do know that the CMC can make things happen also. But I am not trying to put a letter together today. I will give it all some thought and do things when i return home

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I probably should have explained my answer a bit--we, my husband and I, have spent a lot of time over his 23 year career and our 24 year marriage becoming as 'invisible' as possible to his parents. The relationship is a toxic one and thank God for the Navy giving us the 'cover' needed to put some distance from them. Perhaps surprisingly, we are not the only ones, we have found, who are in the same situation. Given that, if my husband were injured and someone from the ship called his parents (even before he was married), he would be furious and it would actually hinder his healing.

Now, that's an extreme situation, but because the military is made up of a lot of different folks and because it's also a bureaucratic machine, it's not uncommon for there not to be that direct contact with extended families. That said, it's also not uncommon for an ombudsman to function in this manner, as their focus is more on families than on the Navy. It's a catch 22 and sometimes people choose to err on the side of caution rather than extend themselves out there.

Either way, I'm so very happy to hear you are going to be with him and that at least in his immediate command he has a caring supervisor. I'll continue to pray for him and you.

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That was really nice that you clarified your earlier statement. This is why NAVYMOMS stick together. We are all here for each other & to let each other know how many different circumstances their can be. SO GLAD HE IS DOING BETTER, and things are falling into place for your family,

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i have a son who is single so thank you for the advice but I have one question what is a POA
Heidi

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This is another good case where I feel the need to point out that it is well worth the investment to get a LAWYER to draft the POA. I'm not knocking the ones that the military put out, but each individual case is not a "rubber stamp" one. I was fortunate enough to have contacted my lawyer before my son left for Boot Camp to have one drawn up because I knew that I would be handling his bank account, student loan bills, car registration and Income Taxes. She was very complete and thorough and my POA covers health issues as well as financial. Too many times all that are aware of at the time of departure is the financial end, but as this case points out, other things sometimes happen where it is good to have all of the bases covered. Also, my POA is "open-ended" meaning that it does not expire, and only upon his written request to revoke it does it no longer become valid. My POA only cost 80.00 for the processing - well worth the money.
Another thing to consider - Wills and Living Wills. I knew that the Navy would be drawing up his will for him, and beforehand I went over what all kinds of things might need to be determined - since he's not married and no kids there were no complicated trusts or guardianships that had to be covered, but we discussed how he might want his posessions taken care of, whether he wanted to be an organ doner (as stated on his driver's license - and his thoughts about a living will.
None of these things are the types of conversations we want to be having with our kids when they are so young, but it is better to be prepared.

Denise - my heart and prayers are with you.

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Thanks Beth..i'm going to have a heart-to-heart with my son when he gets back from deployment. He is single too. He told me before he had things covered, but with all this going on. I can't be sure because I don't even knows who has his POA. I dont care that it wouldnt be me, if he did it that way, just so I know he has it and someone has a copy.

thanks for all the info.
Carolyn

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Beth - THANK YOU for your post! You will have possibly saved some families unnecessary heartache by giving this info. Many folks just want to run out and purchase some power of attorney form and get the signatures and have it notarized. This is usually NOT a good idea. Each power of attorney should be individualized to the person who is giving it. I had my son do a power of attorney and living will before he left for boot camp. I have used the power of attorney countless times - in fact, just yesterday I was at the dept of motor vehicles, getting the title and registration on his truck updated to reflect the proper color (yes, he painted it!) Its very important that if your sailor wants anyone to have access to his/her health info, it must be stated specifically in the power of attorney. And last but not least, make sure you and your sailor have original documents. Many states won't acknowledge a poa unless they can "feel" the notary seal. (We did "extra" copies, jut to make sure.)

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Denise,
Do you have a ride from the airport to the hospital? Let me know if there is anything we can do during your time in Virginia. There are lots of moms here that can help you with whatever you need.

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I am not sure right now. My sons boss is taking me to him and his gf is taking the family to the apartment. My husband may end up in a motel. Just dont know right now

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Denise, I live near Olympia. Is there anything you need/want that I can help with?

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thanks but for now I think I am ok. Just want to go

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