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I am a retired secretary (they call them Admin. Assistants these days!) with a wonderful husband, who is an accountant, two beautiful, smart daughters, a German Shepherd, 3 cats, and 2 horses. We live in the country and I ride horses every chance I get. My youngest daughter will be attending a CA university in the fall of 2009 on a NROTC scholarship and would like to fly jets one day. We are so proud of her choice and will support her in reaching her goal.
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It was positive and maturing. Our relationship has grown stronger.

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At 8:53pm on October 23, 2009, SusanW said…
Hi Barb, Thanks for the note! It is good to hear that Taryn is doing well and adjusting to all of the changes that college and NROTC bring. I hope that they approve her major change request. It is just so much to expect that kids will know that what they want to major in before even getting to college. And engineering...it is just very different and so much harder than most kids imagine. (My husband is an engineer who also coaches a high school robotics team).

I think that David is starting to adjust. There haven't been upset/angry phone calls and texts this week for the first time since he returned from NSO in September. He did text that he is looking forward to tomorrow's Navy Ball.

I am hopeful that David will learn that paying attention to the details, being organized, and respecting the rules (even the silly ones) really will get him ahead in life - even if he decides that the Navy isn't for him. Those concepts have always been foreign to him and he has always been smart enough to find a way around, over, or under anything that has gotten in his way, rather than meeting the challenges head on. So we'll see. I keep trying to tell myself that it is all a growth experience, no matter what happens.

While I really like David as a young adult, there are so many times lately that I wish that I could turn back the clock a year or two!

Best wishes to you and Taryn. I'm rooting for her!
At 4:12pm on September 23, 2009, Sherry James said…
Barb:

You are very welcome. How nice to hear that Taryn is doing well with her Naval course, drill, etc and her PT requirements. Maybe a question to ask Taryn is what will she do to pay for college if she decides to drop out of the NROTC program now? If I recall correctly, she's an excellent student, so are there other academic scholarships that may be available that will help pay for her college tuition?

It may be a bit of cold feet on her part and chances are that her friends (non-ROTC) may be questioning her making such a focused committment to the military. I can understand where the deployment can be hard to handle on families with children and my daughter has made the decision to not get married or have children while on active duty in the Navy for now.

Lauren, as a SWO ordinance officer, has been on one major deployment to work with our European allies in Europe and enjoyed the opportunity to learn from other cultures. She seems to enjoy it but again it is not easy and being an O-1 junior officer is, in some ways, like being a plebe all over again. She'll probably be going back out for deployment sometime early in 2010. My advice is to ask Taryn the hard questions and be willing to listen and suport her decisions. But isn't that what we do anyway?! Please let me know if there is anything you like me to ask her and I will get back with you.
At 4:37pm on September 22, 2009, NavyMomXXXY said…
CORTRAMID is the summer cruise between freshman and sophomore year. It gives the midshipmen a chance to experience all the communities - surface warfare, subs (yes, even for the females!), flight, and marines. Leigh described it as summer camp for the middies - and everyone loves it! While your daughter may be unhappy now, she might well be unhappy even without NROTC - and it's an easy place to blame. It's a question to ask - is she really unhappy with NROTC, or is it school. And Sherry is right - it does get better, and is so worth it. Sometimes as parents we have to take a hard stand - by not allowing our kids to quit on themselves simply because this is a hard place in the road. Only you know how your daughter would react to that. Am happy to give you any other help/info I can, and if you want to talk in private, let me know.
At 4:26pm on September 22, 2009, NavyMomXXXY said…
Hi Barb - I'll be happy to tell you about my daughter - Leigh was not the typical NROTC student, as it was really not her idea. She made a bargain with the devil (her father and me!) that if she was accepted at the University of Minnesota, she would apply for NROTC and try it out. Well.......she was waitlisted at Minnesota and found out two weeks before she graduated that she had been accepted. Needless to say, at that point a scholarship was out of the question, so she went in as a college program student. For the entire first semester all we heard was I hate NROTC, I want out, stupid NROTC.........she failed PT the first time, so had to do remedial, grades were not good....all in all, her first semester as college was pretty much a bust.

The deal we made was that she would stick it out for one semester, and if she really hated it, she could quit. Well, in spite of everything she said, when it came time to make the decision before second semester, she decided she wasn't going to quit. Second semester she almost flunked out, and almost failed her naval science class. But, the XO and CO both liked her, and saw something in her that they felt was worth saving, and they did. Couldn't go on cCORTRAMID because she was not a scholarship student.

Things got better/worse over the next three years, but she did graduate on time and was commissioned. Up until the morning of her commissioning, she was slated to go the flight school - but after taking the exam twice, she was told she had not scored high enough. So she went surface warfare, and was sent to meet her first ship in Bahrain (home port Honolulu). She was the electrical officer on that ship. Everything was going well, then the command changed, and the new CO was slow to help the junior officers get their quals. Leigh then had some issues with her back, and was placed on shore duty for 6 months. Reassigned to a new ship a few months ago, and now is the main propulsion officer (she is a girly girl, but loves getting greasy and dirty - go figure).

Lots of boyfriends, and it seems as soon as one leaves the scene, another one arrives. A couple she thought might be serious, but it didn't work out. She definitely wants a family, but understands that she has lots of years left. After having several boyfriends through deployments, she also realizes that it is possible to have a family, but realistically, wants to get her ship duty behind her.

The college part is the important thing, and owing the military 4-5 years of active duty is nothing to get that education. Additionally, the military experience will make her a much more employable person that the average college grad. Leigh has a history degree- not very useful in the working world. A steady job for 4-5 years, a chance to see the world, and then...? Who knows. From your daughter's perspective, it seems long, but in the grand scheme of things, the time goes quickly. I suspect your daughter is overwhelmed with the newness of it all, and it scares her. Urge her to stick it through - and if she wants someone to talk to, I know Leigh would be happy to email her, and give her a different perspective.

Happy to be your friend, and hope this answers some of your questions -
At 1:51pm on September 21, 2009, Sherry James said…
Hi Barb,

I would caution your daughter to not be so quick to judge the Navy experience based on one person -or even two or three. While there is certainly some truth to what she has heard about there being challenges/difficulties in balancing the military lifestyle with marriage/children, honestly what career life doen't have some challenges. A few moms have already written of the great value of a college education and one that is debt free is ...well, almost priceless and nothing to sneeze at, so to speak.

Personally, I think that five years of virtually invaluable military (one of our best corporations) is a VERY small price to pay for a good college education AND one of the toughest & most vast work experiences she could ever receive, but then again, it is NOT for the faint of heart or for everyone (not unlike many good opportunities).

If this is your daughter's plebe (first) year you should explain to her that it DOES get better, though usually not easy, but better! For this year she is at the bottom of the rung in pecking order and she will be made to know it but she will eventually move up and move on. My experience is based on my daughter, who is both an USNA grad (go Navy) and a female Naval Officer that has been on the job for over a year. Also I have helped other young ladies from my area go through the Academy.

Barb, since we are friends already, please feel free to contact me by post or PM to discuss more specifics if you would like my thoughts.
 
 

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