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Micky Marmorstein
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- About me:
- I am 41, and have 7 children the oldest being 22, the youngest being 9. I am a stay at home mother but looking forward to expanding my life with the outside world again. lol
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- Aaron
- Stage of (Sailor’s) Navy Career?
- Enlisted
- When I heard “Navy,” I:
- Was relieved
- From my experience with the Navy, the most important thing I learned was:
- It is o.k. for the enlisted to call you Mam. lol
- Through this Navy experience, I now believe:
- The Navy has a lot to offer, This was the best decision he/she could have made
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I am so happy to hear that Aaron is adjusting fine to being home. I will keep my fingers crossed for him with the AF. Micky, does the AF have AFforMoms? LOL! You will have to keep us updated on how Aaron is doing and where he ends up. I am sure Corey would like to sit down for a while and chat with Aaron. Someone to comisserate with. LOL!
I talked to Corey yesterday and his big plan of attack was this...get home from the airport, shower, change clothes, grab his truck keys, get in the truck, put gas in the truck, and head back to Reno to a football game with his friend Justin. I wanted to clobber the day lights out of that young man. I told him he could see the football game next week, this week he was staying home with Mommy and I was making his favorite dinner, he had better be there to eat it or he could go back to Ship 17 only it was going to be Mommy style and he knows Mommy style is NOTHING compared to Navy style. LOL!!!! Needless to say, a quick phone call to Justin and the plans changed. Huh. If I only had that much pull with the Navy!
Talk to you both soon. Welcome Home Aaron and you keep fighting for your dream!!!
Talk to you soon.
Is that your Aaron in the photo with you? He is a cutie. My Corey went with the buzz cut for hs graduation and just kept it all summer. Summer here in NV is hot like Phoenix, but Corey always got his hair cut for baseball season, just not that short. LOl!
I couldn't understand how they couldn't tell about Corey's back. He can't touch his stupid toes. I was so shocked that MEPS didn't figure it out. I kept telling Corey since he was four that he wouldn't be able to go in because of his back, but he was told something different by his recruiter who wanted to make his numbers. Hence how Corey got where he is now.
You know as far as Aaron, I'm sure he wasn't lying to you. Each person sees the same thing so differently. When you talked to him did you ask him if he was involved with extra watches and duties to make the time go by faster? Did he sound like he had a cough? I know Corey was coughing up a storm, but I expected him to get sick since he was going from dry arrid desert to humid, moist lake area. I remember how sick he got when we went from CA to FL the summer my husband got out of the Navy.
I hope Aaron's stay is short and he can be home without much further BS. I will keep my fingers crossed the recruiter gets his due. Remind Aaron to get a copy of his packet, it will be beneficial for you later.
Warmest regards,
J
I understand completely how upset you are in regards to the conditions at Ship 17. However, I feel I must pass along some information I have received from Corey, my son, who has been in Ship 17 since 9/4.
As all things, Ship 17 is going to be whatever your son makes of it. Corey has stood watches every day but two since he has been there. Some were assigned, some he chose to take for money so he wouldn't just be sitting around bored. We all get bored at times, so they will all survive that feeling.
Corey has, also, volunteered to sweep the floors, wash the windows, clean the heads in an attempt to keep busy. Busy minds have less time to think of all that is happening to them, what could happen to them, and what will happen to them. Corey is also studying some medical books available to him since he is going to have surgery on his back when he gets home. Books are a great source to keep a bored mind busy.
Your concern about the mops used on the floors the recruits are sitting on...uhm...well. I use the same mop to mop my bathrooms as I do my kitchen. My 15 year old daughter sits on the kitchen floor and plays with her beagle puppy. She has on clothes that get washed twice a week, and she washes her hands after she gets off that floor, hence, she is fine. They, too, will be fine.
The recruits in Ship 17 are allowed to go to the NEX, their store, and even have NEX Charge Cards they are allowed to use to purchase phone cards, stationary, anything they need, as long as it is allowed.
They are still getting paid while they are in Ship 17. Once their legal paperwork gets to the CO's desk and he determines if it is a fraudulent enlistment, that is when their pay will stop. If he doesn't say it is fraudulent, then their pay stops the night before they leave to come home.
Recruits are taken to either the bus, train, or Chicago's Ohare airport by transportation for them to leave to come home. Yes, they will send them home the cheapest way possible. However, the recruit has the option to purchase a plane ticket and turn in his bus ticket and get the cost of it back. My son has a ticket he hasn't used from Christmas, so if they try to send him from Chicago to Reno, NV on a bus, his rear is going to be on the plane with no questions asked. I am not sure what the criteria is for who gets to ride what, but I know there is one.
From the sounds of things, Aaron needs to request to speak to someone from CNRC, the recruiter's commanding officers, about the misconduct of his recruiter. This will lay the foundation for the CO to see that Aaron did not try to fraud the government, the recruiter was the one that chose to make a less than honest statement about Aaron. Also, Aaron needs to request a copy of his package, so should there be any irregularities, he can straighten them out. Not always an easy task, but one that is best adhered to.
Next to last....follow the chain of command. The Chain of Command is established for a great reason, so use it to your advantage. The first line of contact should always be the Ombudsman. An Ombudsman is a liason between the families of the recruits and the command. They are trained extensively on how to handle many situations. They are also given many referrals in order to answer some of the questions people ask them. I was the Ombudsman for my husband's command, I know exactly what these folks have gone through training wise, and I know some of the situations that are being presented to them.
The Ombudsman will forward your email to the appropriate party. This may take a week or so. With mine, it took a week. Once you are in contact with a real person in the system, you can address your concerns and ask any question you may have. Please, try to stay level headed, as it makes the process much easier on everyone concerned. I was lucky to get to talk to the gentleman who was handling Corey's legal stuff. From there I was able to talk to Corey. He was allowed to say how he was feeling, what he was doing, what the conditions were like, if he was sick, how they handled him being sick, what was going on with the process, how long it would take, where we are in the process, what his diagnosis was from medical, how they came about that diagnosis (which this one was trully dismal), where he was coming home to (Reno vs Sacramento where he shipped from), what he was allowed to bring home, what he was wearing, what he was eating, how he was sleeping...the list just goes on and on. Needless to say, after that conversation I was a much happier Momma Bear and wasn't so unnerved.
Finally, I was very upset by your closing remark in regards to the Navy. My husband served his country for 20+ years in the US Navy. My father-in-law served 30+ years in the Navy. There are many other members of our family who have served in the Navy. The one thing we all can agree on....the NAVY wasn't the problem, it was some of the people IN the Navy that were the problems. The Navy didn't do this to your son, Micky, the recruiter, a person, did this to your son. He made promises and said things that were not true. Hence, he needs to be reported to his commanding officer. Don't hate the Navy for what happened to Aaron, hate the recruiter for what he promised Aaron. The Navy is an Organization designed to protect and defend your constitutional rights, the people in it are the issues and not even all of them are the issues. Take action against your recruiter, he deserves it. A factual letter to the CNRC, whose address is at the beginning of this group, is the only way to make sure no more sailors end up in Ship 17 for the same reasons Corey & Aaron did. Keep your letter factual, not emotional, and prepare to answer questions openly and honestly. You may not see immediate changes, but trust me, when the recruiter either looses his recruiting position or gets bad evaluations, it isn't going to look favorable upon him, and your revenge will be complete.
I am proud of your Aaron and all of the men and women who have chose to enlist at this time in their lives. I will keep you in my thoughts.
With warmest wishes,
Joy
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